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    80-90 undetailed?? lol. Someone's having a lend I reckon.


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    i suspect it had a free dealer buff originally but my understanding is Mazda is notoriously thin.

    I have a 2007 mazda 2 coming in this weekend. Ill see what figures its comes up with. This one is definately untouched
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    Lowest / Highest Readings -

    Aston Martin Virage - 2012 - 178-246 microns
    Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder - 2008 - 121-143 microns
    Ferrari 458 - 2011 - 128-171 microns
    Ferrari 430 - 2008 - 159-224 microns
    Holden Commodore SV6 Ute - 2012 - 78-108 microns
    Toyota Hiace - 2009 - 62-78 microns

    I'll go through more photos another time and see what else i can find.

    All vehicles hadn't been polished to my knowledge besides being hacked at pre-delivery, our SV6 brand new was well under 90 in most areas. lol

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    I tend to exercise caution when sub 100, extreme caution when sub 90, and tend not to really want to touch areas that are sub 80. Or is this too general you think?
    Its all a guessing game when you move into low numbers unless you know exactly how thick the clear alone is.

    Here's what I've been told by a head Audi tech from Germany a couple of years back at the motor show while he was hanging around after the show, the primer creates the base for a uniform finish and due to the technology of panel stamping being so advanced these days the primer and colour coat is being sprayed a lot thinner then it used to be and the clear makes up majority of the thickness.. Something like: Primer - 8-38microns, Base Colour - 13-42microns, Clear - 38-102microns.

    He also mentioned that the UV elements due to their weight in the clear raise and settle to the top of the coating while the clear sinks - even with nano clears like CeramiClear, making the top 50% of the clear where the UV inhibitors are. Polishing more then half the clear off can cause premature failure. Apparently manufactures actually specify exactly how much clear can be taken off before the warranty is void, on average its around 25%.

    He sent me a very informative link to a website about clear coats, the uv protection in them and how it all works, i will dig it out later.
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    Hey Dan , I know we are Aussies...not Americans,or Poms and we don't need to blame every one but ourselves when shit don't go to plan .....But should we ...no wait....Do we need to have some kind of disclaimer in the userguide start of the page to say this is a basic guide not gospel?
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    Interesting read Scott. Yes would be interested to read that link.

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    Hey Dan , I know we are Aussies...not Americans,or Poms and we don't need to blame every one but ourselves when shit don't go to plan .....But should we ...no wait....Do we need to have some kind of disclaimer in the userguide start of the page to say this is a basic guide not gospel?
    Yep, good call. Have added one in.






    THanks everyone so far for your contributions. Keep em coming. I will add as we go.


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    Yep Mazda 3's that I have done have all had ridiculously low readings.
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    Glad this thread popped up, extremely informative
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    I'm finding the new Mazdas are getting ridiculously thin as well too. My wife bought a new 3 and I specifically told the dealer not to detail anything. When we got the car, the roof was like 80. Other panels were around 100-120.
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    I'll remeasure my CX5, but I recall it being as low as 70-80 on the roof. Up to a max 120 I think. Very very thin.
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    70-80 on the roof! That's shockingly low, you can't even play with it
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